I'll have to agree with Mark on this one. So far on my car this is roughly what it's gonna be costing plus there is a lot more I'm sure I'm forgetting as well. I got the shell for free for doing some work for a friend so that didn't cost a cent. Then there is the one piece fiberglass front end- lil over $1000, roll cage- $1400 and up, seat and harness close to $1000, Fuel cell and lines- around $400, fuel pump- $400, lexan windows- around $600, mild front brake upgrade- $600, rims and slicks- $2200. Thats all ready over the $7000 budget and thats not even my whole chassis yet. Then there is still the motor which so far sports ported and shaved head with bigger valves, cam and gear, 4 puck clutch and light weight flywheel, tons of bolt on stuff and more still to come. By the time this thing makes it to the trac I'll have spent well over I'll guess $30,000. And with all that invested I'll be happy to come home with second last place in the class. Lol. It realy is quite expensive to do this kind of project. I thought it would be a lot cheaper too when I started building it but quickly realized how fast things add up. Oh well at least it's fun!
Ok, I posted this in the early hours and its not here now. So I will try this again.
First off, the fiberglass front, the upgraded brakes aren't needed.$1400 for a cage is out to lunch, so is $2200 for rims and slicks. Lexan windows is not a good idea and nor are they needed.
Heres alist from a civic that was built 2 years ago on a budget. Also note, that My friend and I are fabricators and did all of our own work. BUt I will give you the prices as you would have to pay.
Civic shell, $500, B18a and ys1 tranny, $1000, Turbo $300(grand nat) turbo manifold$300(off of e-bay) crain import igntion system $600, roll cage, $1000, fuel cell $250, FMU $250 , slicks $500, seat and 5 point harness, $750. Clutch, $900.that may even be high, but thats what we payed for it. That there is a grand total of $6350 and you will have a car pushing the 10 mark. I know, you are all wonder about the mounts, shaft, wiring harness comp, they were all stocked and this car handled 14psi all day long. The car was gutted down too. Remember, it was a race car, not a street one. Anyone that is racing, can do all of this work themselves. If you can't and need to pay someone else to do this work for you, it stil wouldn't cost more then $12000 if you don't turn wrenches on it yourself.
$7000 to run 10's in a FWD...errr ..i dont see it happening. The cage is 1500-1800 for chromoly atleast, intalled. Depending where you go, more. Tag charges way more.
$7000 to run 10's in a FWD...errr ..i dont see it happening. The cage is 1500-1800 for chromoly atleast, intalled. Depending where you go, more. Tag charges way more.
Thats a big chunk of change right there.
Although chromoly is nice, its not need. I checked the rules and it did not specify that you need to use chromoly. Just a min of an 8 point cage. I sent a e-mail off to IHRA and CSCS to see what is acceptabled for the cage. I know to but all the tubing that is need for a civic cost around $600.
Ok, I posted this in the early hours and its not here now. So I will try this again.
First off, the fiberglass front, the upgraded brakes aren't needed.$1400 for a cage is out to lunch, so is $2200 for rims and slicks. Lexan windows is not a good idea and nor are they needed.
Heres alist from a civic that was built 2 years ago on a budget. Also note, that My friend and I are fabricators and did all of our own work. BUt I will give you the prices as you would have to pay.
Civic shell, $500, B18a and ys1 tranny, $1000, Turbo $300(grand nat) turbo manifold$300(off of e-bay) crain import igntion system $600, roll cage, $1000, fuel cell $250, FMU $250 , slicks $500, seat and 5 point harness, $750. Clutch, $900.that may even be high, but thats what we payed for it. That there is a grand total of $6350 and you will have a car pushing the 10 mark. I know, you are all wonder about the mounts, shaft, wiring harness comp, they were all stocked and this car handled 14psi all day long. The car was gutted down too. Remember, it was a race car, not a street one. Anyone that is racing, can do all of this work themselves. If you can't and need to pay someone else to do this work for you, it stil wouldn't cost more then $12000 if you don't turn wrenches on it yourself.
DUDE.... IF THATS WAT U THINK THEN YOUR OUT TO LUNCH....... JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD YOUR MISSING FUEL PUMP, INJECTORS, FEW GAUGES, PIPING, INTERCOOLER ( OPTIONAL) AND EVEN THEN AT 14 PSI I DONT THINK U WILL EVEN BE CLOSE TO 10'S ...AND THOSE STOCK CAST PISTONS WONT LAST TO LONG!!!
YOU GOT A BETTER CHANCE GETTING A STOCK MOTOR PUTTING A SET OF PISTONS IN IT AND SPRAYING IT.......
Civic shell, $500, B18a and ys1 tranny, $1000, Turbo $300(grand nat) turbo manifold$300(off of e-bay) crain import igntion system $600, roll cage, $1000, fuel cell $250, FMU $250 , slicks $500, seat and 5 point harness, $750. Clutch, $900.that may even be high, but thats what we payed for it. That there is a grand total of $6350 and you will have a car pushing the 10 mark. I know, you are all wonder about the mounts, shaft, wiring harness comp, they were all stocked and this car handled 14psi all day long. The car was gutted down too. Remember, it was a race car, not a street one. Anyone that is racing, can do all of this work themselves. If you can't and need to pay someone else to do this work for you, it stil wouldn't cost more then $12000 if you don't turn wrenches on it yourself.
sorry to be like this but i can proove you wrong on all acounts, just because i know this setup will not get you 10's , not only that , your prices are way off, this setup doesn not run 10's let alone maybe even not an 11, 14psi will net you less than 300whp on a b18a alot less, more like 250whp.
but let me brake some things down for you.....
$500 for a shell maybe,
complete swap b18a swap for $1000 maybe that would be hell of a deal, considering no matter what the stock mounts won't work considering if this is a 92-95 civic, the cable trans mounting is different and would have to be seriously modded, not only that you would have to change over the pedal assembly to make the cable work for the cable trans, lets say you get it the motor is old probly 200,000km or more, how long it would last??? LOL
so $600 for a turbo and manifold, ebay manifolds break everyone knows that ss autocrome i think they even com pre-broke for you, $300 used turbo would need a rebuild, another $300 on top of the original turbo price. you forgot intercooler and all the piping and clamps and hoses, not to mention waste gate and blowoff , i am not sure but the gn turbo may have internal wastegate,
you also forgot fuel system for the cell like a pump and lines lets say you manage to get this car done with what you said for that amount of money, you think it would run 10s???
how much you think it would way with that roll cage, ?????? non "cro-molly"
cage??? even gutted that car would way 2300 with driver,
14 psi is not gonna get it done i know this for a fact, not in a b18a thats for sure and not for what you are suggesting......do you even know how many b18a's in the world have ever gone 10's? i have a ruff figure, and thats with hell of alot more power in hell of alot better chassis, and in a lighter car
Sorry to be blunt, but anyone who thinks racing is cheap or can be done a "under 10 grand budget" is just plain ****ing stupid.
You can hypothesize all you want about the cost of this and the cost of that, but bottm line is your competition hasn't done it "cheap". Which is simple terms means, you'll go home empty handed. So if you wanna be cheap, stick to weekend time trials and save yourself the embaressment of trying to compete.
If you wanna race, be prepared to spend money and lots of it. Some combinations work, some don't, so be prepared to have to change things around if you want to even qualify, let alone win. If racing were so cheap there wouldn't be the need for sponsors.
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People are spending twice that and not going 10's
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