What I don’t understand is, if you have such a huge number of un matched automotive skills, why aren’t you capitalizing on it? To say its all for fun, and you don’t want to have an income based on your fun goes against all logic. Like winning 20 million in the lotto but not collecting because you just like playing the numbers
I believe that if you can do the things you claim, you would have a very successful shop, maybe the best shop in north America. Give up the computer business, wont be nearly as lucrative.
Dude, I owned my own automotive shop 10 years ago. Just way to many head aches in own a shop, even if its just a part time thing to make some extra coin.Making a tube chassis is not easy and is more of an art work then anything. But, without every owning your own shop and without having the same knowledge on building cars, you would not understand. Just to do it as a hobby is enough fun as it is. You do get pleasure of seeing one of you cars going down the track though. But most of the times, its after I have got bored of them.
As for rabbitman, If you are stupid enough to follow all that shit and have that much torque and HP to do a lousy 11 sec pass, then it sucks to be you boy. With that much HP and torque in that light of a body, that is a 9 sec car with real ****ing glassin it. ANd no need for those gay wheelie bars either. You should try not to be a know it all in VW's. I was playing with those well before you were out of diapers.
As for rabbitman, If you are stupid enough to follow all that shit and have that much torque and HP to do a lousy 11 sec pass, then it sucks to be you boy. With that much HP and torque in that light of a body, that is a 9 sec car with real ****ing glassin it. ANd no need for those gay wheelie bars either. You should try to be a know it all in VW's. I was playing with those well before you were out of diapers.
If you had read the article I posted you would have read that it smoked the tires the whole 1/4. And I know it has the capability of running nines. Why do you think I bought the car? BTW, just to clear it up for you the VR6 hasn't been around for 30 years, so you weren't "playing" with one when I has in diapers.
OMG, I can't believe I actually read this whole thing.
but I would like to say one thing.......
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In the mid 1950's American automobile manufacturers began stamping and casting identifying numbers on cars and their parts. The vehicle identification number has become referred to as the "VIN". The obvious purpose was to give an accurate description of the vehicle when mass production numbers were starting to climb in very significant numbers. Research has shown that early Vin's came in all sorts of variations which depended on the individual manufacturer at that time.
In the early 1980's the National highway Traffic Safety Administration (U.S. Dept. of Transport) required that all road vehicles must contain a 17 character VIN. This established the fixed VIN system for major vehicle manufacturers as it is known today. Thus, establishing a unique "DNA" style number for each unique vehicle which rolled off the assembly line.
So, by that definition, unless a chassis serial number has a 17digit code that applies all the information needed by the government to be a VIN, then it's not a VIN, it's a serial number
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serial number:noun, 1896 :a number indicating place in a series and used as a means of identification
If we were still in the old days and the government did not regulate VINs, then yes, a chassis number would be a vin, but we are not in the old days. So the term VIN is used as a 17digit code regulated by the government to identify a vehicle, nothing else.
Ya, I know, I do my homework....lol
The main thing is that you guys were arguing the same point, the only difference was the actual definition of the term VIN. If you take the three words seperately and give definition to each word SEPERATELY, yes, it would seem that a chassis serial number would be a vehicle identification number, but since the term VIN has another definition when all three words are in succussion and the term has been adopted into the mainstream, when you use the term VIN, it is now only defined as the new definition of the term, not the three words seperately.
wow, that was alot of typing....ok, I'm done now....lol
Tish, that's what we've been trying to tell Stroke it all along. He's just argueing that chassis manufacturers don't number their chassis'.
Are you still a moron, Go back to ****ing kindergarden and learn how to ****ing read. You are the ones that argued, I proved to you about 10 ****ing pages back, that its not a vin, but a serial number or to be correct, a product code stupid. At this rate, you will never build you car as you can't comprehend simple reading skills. You say I from the trailer park, buddy, then you must be my next door neighbour then.
Are you still a moron, Go back to ****ing kindergarden and learn how to ****ing read. You are the ones that argued, I proved to you about 10 ****ing pages back, that its not a vin, but a serial number or to be correct, a product code stupid. At this rate, you will never build you car as you can't comprehend simple reading skills. You say I from the trailer park, buddy, then you must be my next door neighbour then.
WOW talk about needs to learn to read. Do I need to quote myself again from page one? And if I were you're neighbour, I'd have a 6 sec VR6 with all the know how that you have.
Tish, that's what we've been trying to tell Stroke it all along. He's just argueing that chassis manufacturers don't number their chassis'.
Actually, the points made in the beginning of the thread was that a chassis # was a VIN, which it is not, according to the definition of "VIN" nowadays. And as to the chassis having serial numbers, well in most manufacturing entities, products manufactured have product codes, serial numbers, batch codes and if they have more than one locations manufacting the same product, it will include a location code in there somewhere. Most places will have one, if not all of those codes somewhere on the product(if not more), cause if something goes wrong then they have to know what to recall.
VIN numbers on race cars are called chassis numbers, and EVERY chassis has one. The manufacturer stamps it on the chassis, or welds a small plate somewhere, so that if anything goes wrong, eg, broken welds, etc, he knows who built it and when. Hence the same info as a VIN, just without colour, interior options and all the other crap in a VIN. Can't beleive that needed to be explained on a drag racing site.
This was my first post on this division of this thread. I know the difference between the 2, and have since before this bs started. Can you beleive that all this shit started because of a civic with wheelie bars? Fu<king Hondas.
CSCS pics...enjoy, different flavor of pics.
Pics.
BTW, just to clear it up for you the VR6 hasn't been around for 30 years, so you weren't "playing" with one when I has in diapers. 
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