Garage Storage Organization and Garage Cabinets

2TONE_93GT · 08-10-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by B6T

^ And how is an engine that produces 1234whp between 7000 and 8000rpm superior to a large displacement V8 that will produce that amount of HP over a broader power RPM range?

Face it, no matter how you slice it, when it comes down to ultimate power output, a V8 will never be beat by any Honda or Supra. It's simple physics, more displacement = more power or potential for power. I think that's what the retards that wrote that little article were trying to point out. Even though a Honda engine is still powerful, it's only powerful compared to other engines that are similar. For example, a 195hp Honda 1.8L ITR engine is a far better engine then a 1.8L Mazda engine, which only produces 125hp. But in the grand scheme of things, a 195hp 1.8L Honda is shit compared to a Mustang SVT Cobra R supercharged V8 engine. Comparing apples to apples, displacement per liter is an effective way of rating an engine, but when you compare apples to oranges, displacement per liter means nothing.

Know what I'm sayin?

I believe that is what he's trying to say

and it seems bang on to me

Honda does make an amazing motor, but you cant compare some type r's HP to a v8 svt cobra HP.. because HP is all relevent, and usually the one with more wins.

DashHavoc · 08-10-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 2TONE of 1320

I believe that is what he's trying to say

and it seems bang on to me

Honda does make an amazing motor, but you cant compare some type r's HP to a v8 svt cobra HP.. because HP is all relevent, and usually the one with more wins.

not always with the one who has more wins. Look at all those 800hp supra's they still only run 13's lol

08-10-2005, 10:01 AM

audi rs4 4.2l v8 (naturally aspirated)420hp.... 100hp/l. when used to make power, technology is always better. so why knock bmw, ferrari, audi, and honda (and others) who have decided to take engine building seriously.

the honda's are not made to have lots of power. they do however make an amazing amount of power for their size. that is why they are good.

itr 2639lbs - 195hp = 13.53lbs/hp
mustang 3520lbs - 300hp = 11.73lbs/hp

thats all that matters... power to weight ratio.

either way, there is no need for ignorance.

2TONE_93GT · 08-10-2005, 05:02 PM

its more than just power to weight, theres the 'pushing or pulling" factor as well. There are those that believe FWD is better, then there are those that just know thats not true.

Ive seen tons of street cars with tons of HP be slow at the drag strip, not just supras. Not everyone wants to put drag suspension in their car. Imagine that 800 HP supras being prepped for drag, i assure you it wont run 13's.

rabbitman · 08-10-2005, 08:26 PM

^^^ There's the reason that the GN's and GNX's are so fast.

NOTORIOUS VR · 08-11-2005, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by silver90

that is where i got it from and quoted it from i didnt claim it was mine but i think theyre right because hondas tend to be slow xcept ones with big wings and monster tachs though you might think they are drift cars obvious mods would also dictate possible drag racing setups so watch out for nawz and deisel injection cause when the deisel hits its like nos x 18 and we all know how much that is

So what are you trying to say here? I wish people would be more clear on what point they are trying to get across to people..

With this thread, do you mean V8's are always faster/better then I4's? or are u saying the american V8 is a better built motor then a honda I4?

Because if it's the latter then you are very, very wrong

Honda's 4cyl is much more technically advanced to say the Mustang's V8 you're talking about...

And HP/L does mean something... It shows how efficient the motor is... Just look @ BMW... All of their M cars have at least 100HP per L... Including the new M5/M6 with a 5L V10...

And as 6M above mentioned, the new Audi RS4 with this 420 HP 4.2L V8, again 100HP per L...

Sure to some buying these cars like Mustangs, they could care less as they'll go out and drop all kinds of money on the motor to make it as fast as they like and not care about HP/L... but the fact remains that HP/L shows just how efficient and how good you are at building motors.

silver90 · 08-11-2005, 05:04 AM

380 hp v8 mustang pwns 220 h22 4banger

who cares about technology only gay guys who work at ibm care about road and track stats we are talking horsepowa

and if lame honda gay guys wanna say ther honda h22 makes sick power 220 hp and is so elite compared to a v8 who gives a shit because we all know that a v8 mustang produced of same year will walk a stock produced h22 abortion with techno0logy inside

NOTORIOUS VR · 08-11-2005, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by silver90

380 hp v8 mustang pwns 220 h22 4banger

who cares about technology only gay guys who work at ibm care about road and track stats we are talking horsepowa

and if lame honda gay guys wanna say ther honda h22 makes sick power 220 hp and is so elite compared to a v8 who gives a shit because we all know that a v8 mustang produced of same year will walk a stock produced h22 abortion with techno0logy inside

Buddy, YOU ARE one of tho's guys... you are comparing a 4 banger to a V8!

What you're saying makes no sense! How does technology not matter? Have u seen the new 'Vette C6? You think it's still carb'd and shit? No, it's technology that makes the car as good as it is...

You want to talk about HP? ok...

420 HP from a 4.2L V8 in the Audi.. VS anything else Domestic that is N/A and up to 4.2L in displacement... what do they have that can compare...

Nothing... other then bigger motors like 6L plus V8's and most of them don't make near as much HP as the Audi V8. So how does technology not matter you pin head?

mayo · 08-11-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by silver90

380 hp v8 mustang pwns 220 h22 4banger

who cares about technology only gay guys who work at ibm care about road and track stats we are talking horsepowa

and if lame honda gay guys wanna say ther honda h22 makes sick power 220 hp and is so elite compared to a v8 who gives a shit because we all know that a v8 mustang produced of same year will walk a stock produced h22 abortion with techno0logy inside

Rick don't you get bored making all these fake accounts.....

5PointOHNO · 08-11-2005, 09:57 PM

^Clearly not!