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Old 11-18-2005, 02:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Dumb question peeps, is the Athlon XP 2600 a "barton" core?

Never mind, I found it. A thoroughbred core, good I can use my new shim to help support the new cooling fan I got for it. I sooooo need an upgrade.
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Old 11-19-2005, 08:39 AM   #24 (permalink)
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^No an XP2600+ is infact a Barton core. Anything above 2500+ is barton, 2400+ and below is thoroughbred.
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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^No an XP2600+ is infact a Barton core. Anything above 2500+ is barton, 2400+ and below is thoroughbred.
Not completely true...

there is infact a 2600+ Thoroughbred 'B' aswell as a 2700+ and 2800+ Thoroughbred 'B'...

Dirtyoldprick...if u want to find out if u have a Barton, ur gonan have to find out how much L2 Cache u have...

ALL Bartons have 512Kb of L2 Cache...whereas all Thoroughbreds 'A' & 'B' are 256kb L2 Cache...

Search on google for a program called CPU-Z and run it, it will tell u all the details on ur CPU/Mainbord...L2 cache size, FSB Frequency, overall clock frequency, etc etc..

P.S. I had a 1700+ Thoroughbred 'B' which stock is 1.47GHz OC'd to 2.25GHz for over 2 years....still running to this DAY at that same speed, its now the www.ontariosr.com server

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Old 11-19-2005, 02:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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What do you think the "B" stands for? The 256 Cache ones are Bartons no-less. What do you think an XP2500 mobile is? It's a Barton with only 256KB L2 Cache and a 266MHZ FSB. They just dropped the Thoroughbred designation and stuck with the "B."

Same shit, different pile. There is no architectual differences. Only a cache increase. Because if that were true, the mobile Barton's would be considered Thoroughbred B's too.

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Old 11-19-2005, 03:34 PM   #27 (permalink)
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What do you think the "B" stands for? The 256 Cache ones are Bartons no-less. What do you think an XP2500 mobile is? It's a Barton with only 256KB L2 Cache and a 266MHZ FSB. They just dropped the Thoroughbred designation and stuck with the "B."

Same shit, different pile. There is no architectual differences. Only a cache increase. Because if that were true, the mobile Barton's would be considered Thoroughbred B's too.

Jay lets have sex.
Wow....LOL!! No mark no sex...

Seriously though...there is a difference...seriously...i provide links if need be...

Bartons ARE Thoroughbred 'B's but with 512KB L2 cache...thats what MAKES the Barton a Barton...

ASIDE from the extra cache..no, there is no other difference, but the CPU Core itself is bigger on a barton to accomodate the extra cache....i have 3 Athlon XP's sitting right here infront of me right now man...ive owned EVERY single Athlon there is possible to own (in Stepping/core changes, not frequency wise)

Ive had a 1600+ Palomino...I HAVE a 1900+ Palomino, I HAVE a 1700+ Thoroughbred 'B', i HAD an 1800+ Thoroughbred 'A', I HAD TWO 2500+ Barton's....

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Thunderbird 'B' = Original Socket A Athlon w/ 100Mhz FSB. 700-1400MHz
Thunderbird 'C' = Original Socket A Athlon w/ 133Mhz FSB. 1000-1400MHz
-These here above are the ones that used a ceramic CPU Packaging and u could do the good old pencil trick across the L1 bridges to unlock the multipliers from 5 - 12.5. Built on the 0.18Micron process
Palomino = Original Socket A Athlon w/ 133Mhz FSB and added SSE Instruction set and on-die thermal diode. 1500+ - 2000+
-These were the first to use the organic style cpu packaging that was either a brownish/orangish or green colour and the pencil trick no longer worked to unlock the multipliers, u had to fill the laser cuts with something like crazy glue and connect the bridges with a conductive ink. These were also the start of the Athlons using a Performance Rating system. 1500+ = 1.33GHz, 1600+ = 1.4GHz etc etc. and also built on the 0.18Micron process
Thoroughbred 'A' = A Palomino that has now been shrunk using AMD's first attempt at the 0.13Micron Process. Built as 1700+ - 2200+ Units ONLY for a limited time. It was known the 13 layer die process of the T-Bred 'A' caused instability problems above 2200Mhz, so in comes....
Thoroughbred 'B' = A T-Bred 'A' but with one extra layer in the die process, the CPU core is SLIGHTLY larger than that of the 'A' but it also runs at cooler temperatures, higher clock speeds and reduced voltages...this is the 0.13Micron process that gave the T-Bred 'B' the OC king crown until the release of the Barton. T-Bred 'B' ranged from 1700+ - 2800+, 1700+ - 2400+ all 133Mhz FSB, 2600+ - 2800+ are 166Mhz FSB....
Barton = A T-Bred 'B' but with 512Kb of L2 cache...released as a 2500+ w/ a 166Mhz FSB @ 1.83Ghz it also made a final appearance as a 3200+ model which was the first model to be released as a 200Mhz FSB chip, later a 3000+ was released on the 200Mhz FSB aswell. The 2500+ became the CPU of choice by Enthusiasts etc...were KNOWN to do 2200Mhz w/ stock HSF simply by selecting 200Mhz FSB or the "3200+" option in the bios, as both the 2500+ and 3200+ used a multiplier of 11x, just different FSB Ratings.

Anyways....here....T-Bred vs Barton

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Old 11-19-2005, 10:06 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Ok fellas its all good, my CPU has 256k cache so it may be a t-bred.

Here is what belarc says...

2.10 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache

I will find out more because the cpu shim I have will NOT work for Barton cpus, it says so right on the package with a danger sign.

It's a T-Bred!!! WOOHOO!! Here is what CPU-z says...

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CPU-Z version 1.31
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CPUID Output
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Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon XP
Code name Thoroughbred
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
Family/Model/Stepping 681
Extended Family/Model 7/8
Package Socket A
Core Stepping B0
Technology 0.13µ
Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Features
Clock Speed 2086.6 MHz
Clock multiplier x12.5
Front Side Bus Frequency 166.9 MHz
Bus Speed 333.9 MHz
P-Rating 2600+
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2086.6 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits


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My Intel machine is faster then 5points AMD. So

hahah seriously though, my Intel is only running 3.85ghz right now, I suck at life.
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Old 11-20-2005, 12:16 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Bartons ARE Thoroughbred 'B's but with 512KB L2 cache...thats what MAKES the Barton a Barton...
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So are you saying the unlocked mobile 2500+'s with 256 L2 cache and 266FSB isn't a barton? even though in every CPUID program, and serial code it actually says it is?

The Thoroughbred B's were all bartons man, just adding cache doesn't make it a different chip. When ATi added 128MB of ram to the existing 128MB of ram, they didn't rename the 9800 Pro or any other card for that matter.

This is a matter of opinion of course, and if you want to meet up and have a king of the ring-esque free for all, you're welcome to try me.
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