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11-20-2005, 09:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OCing my computer...

OK since there seems to be 2 resident pros about OCing AMD's here... I feel that my CPU isn't able to go as high as it *should*

I could be wrong... but hey it's worth a shot.

System specs:

AMD AXDA 2600+ (333mhz bus) overclocked to ~2326 MHz
Coolermaster CPU fan (adjustable speed)
Abit NF7-S V2.0 (Nforce 2 chipset) w/ 6ch audio, LAN, USB 2.0
1 Gig OCZ DDR400 Kit (2.5-3-3-7)
ATI 9600SE 128MB AGP (Retail box)
350W Enermax Quiet series PSU

Really I can go high then this.. I"ve had the CPU up to about 2450 MHz and I can get into Windows just fine, but it's sorta on the edge for stability.

Could it be that my PSU doesn't have enough juice?

Anyways, some suggestions about OC'ing would be great...

BTW, my CPU is fully unlocked and it came that way... I never did anything to it.

CPU-Z shots:

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11-20-2005, 12:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well it's unlikely it's your Power supply, but it wouldn't hurt to put a good one in anyways.

What's the highest stable overclock you can achieve currently? And remember, juicing the ram for the most FSB won't always get you the most performance.

If you're CPU is truly unlocked, then you can adjust the multiplier. Try something like 14x175 it will still equate to 2450MHZ, but it will give you increased stability. Also disable FSB Spread Spectrum in the advanced bios features (where you adjust your AGP speed and Aperature). Make sure CPU thermal throttling is disabled as well.

If what I said works, and you're stable at 2450 MHZ, keep increasing the FSB from 175 each stable boot until you max out your OC. Go up by 1 or 2 FSB per boot and see how it is. And what are your temps currently?
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11-21-2005, 02:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well it's unlikely it's your Power supply, but it wouldn't hurt to put a good one in anyways.
Well I thought Enermax was a fairly good PS (at least 2 years ago) that's why I bought it. I used to have one of tho's generic super light PS's before that and it was a little flakey... lol

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What's the highest stable overclock you can achieve currently? And remember, juicing the ram for the most FSB won't always get you the most performance.
The one I'm running right now 2326... Well... with this one I can play games and everything... I can get more out of it and just use Windows but games it'll let go I'm sure...

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If you're CPU is truly unlocked, then you can adjust the multiplier.
It is... I can go up and down w/ my multiplier. I was quite supprised to see this!

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Try something like 14x175 it will still equate to 2450MHZ, but it will give you increased stability. Also disable FSB Spread Spectrum in the advanced bios features (where you adjust your AGP speed and Aperature). Make sure CPU thermal throttling is disabled as well.
Yea, I disabled all the wacky options in the bios... I believe I've tried that combination before to get 2450 MHz, but it wasn't quite stable... but I'm gonna try it again later today...

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If what I said works, and you're stable at 2450 MHZ, keep increasing the FSB from 175 each stable boot until you max out your OC. Go up by 1 or 2 FSB per boot and see how it is. And what are your temps currently?
Well... that's the thing... I'm usually at about 49 idle... I dunno if that high or not... but I do have a good fan and heatsink combo that dropped my temps a lot compared to the old/original one from AMD.

And I usually see w/ this combo while playing a game the temps around 53-54 deg. C.

I'm currently running 1.75 V on my core... been doing that for a while now... do u think that is enough? or too much?

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11-21-2005, 11:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thats too hot, which could be your problem. Mine idles at 28, full load at 38. On pure air. at 1.8Vcore.

I have the Thermaltake Big Typhoon... it's $59 and it aint an easy install, but it's worth it.

You can also re-use it on your next AMD system, as it is socket A, 754, and 939 compatible.

How's your case airflow? Ideally you want as much air pulling in as you do going out.
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Thats too hot, which could be your problem. Mine idles at 28, full load at 38. On pure air. at 1.8Vcore.

I have the Thermaltake Big Typhoon... it's $59 and it aint an easy install, but it's worth it.

You can also re-use it on your next AMD system, as it is socket A, 754, and 939 compatible.

How's your case airflow? Ideally you want as much air pulling in as you do going out.
Holy shit! that's low... My CPU has never been that low... it's always been at least 40 C even with stock everything...

As for case cooling.. I've added a front fan pulling air in at the bottom, and a top rear fan pushing air out... but I find I have best results (lower temps) with just leaving the side of my case open (which I do)...

Well I might not even bother much with it anymore... I'm waiting for Infonec to get the 146's in stock... was there today, but they have no idea when they're coming in.. but then again I didn't talk to the guy I usually do and I don't think he knows as much.
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11-23-2005, 12:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok, NVR...

Theres definitely more left in the CPU if u got it that high...HOWEVER...

That PDC-K ram is what is holding u back, the PSU is perfectly fine...

u have to step down the ram divider...its set right now to run at 200Mhz Mem clock...Thats A-Synchronous to the FSB...

The 2600+ is 166Mhz or 333DDR stock...ur at 186 or 372 ddr...that means the ram is running at 220 or 440ddr...and that ram simply can NOT clock that high...
Set the memory divider to 6:6 and decrease ur multiplier from 12.5 to say, 11.

NOW push the FSB to 200Mhz. that will give 2200Mhz (Yes, less than what u have now, but this is a startign point)

Remember, FSB Bandwidth is MUCH more important and beneficial than over MHz is on an Athlon. so the bigger the pipe, the better.

Now it should be 100% stable at 2200mhz @ 400DDR...now increase the multiplier 1 step at a time, so try 11.5, if u see any instability, go back into the bios and raise the voltage an extra notch. As long as u havent surpased 2.2VCore, ur fine.

Yes, i said 2.2VCore.

Your running a T-Bred 'B' CPU...i have a 1700+ T-Bred 'B' @ 2.1VCore on a TT Volcano 7+ Heatsink with a 80mm TT Volcano 7 fan mounted to it @ 2.25Ghz 100% stable, doesnt even run hot, hottest i seen was 49degrees full load. The CPU has more in it, but the MB its on is a shitty VIA KT400 (not KT400A) based gigabyte board, so 200Mhz FSB isnt even supported but meah...

Try it out man, those NF7-S's r the best Socket A boards ever made.

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HAHA 2.2Vcore on a barton that runs 53 Degree's at 1.7 Vcore. Talk about borrowed time. IF it even posts.
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HAHA 2.2Vcore on a barton that runs 53 Degree's at 1.7 Vcore. Talk about borrowed time. IF it even posts.
lol... well I did what Jay said.... and I was able to get it to 11.5 x 200 @ 1.85V...

I guess its just my shitty cooler... even tho it was an upgrade lol....

But @ idle it sits around 48 deg, and if I play FEAR or so, with my CPU fan at MAX speed it goes to about 51-53max...

It does seem to run faster with only 2300 MHz tho then before with just a sh!tload of FSB.
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Here is a screenshot of CPU-Z now, and the Nvidia sysutil...

Also, do anyone know if increasing the AGP bus help any in regards to graphics? I've tried and it doesn't seem to do much if anything...

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^No do not increase the AGP speed, 66 will be fine, over 70 and you will most likely get instability.
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